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Welcome to the Pragmatic Lead Podcast. Your hosts are Alex Bachuk and John Masse. We have conversations with folks throughout the tech industry to get a real-world perspective on how people make things happen for their careers and businesses. Check out pragmaticlead.com for articles and more episodes just like this.
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Sunday Feb 07, 2021
#10 - Exploring Cynefin a framework for sense making
Sunday Feb 07, 2021
Sunday Feb 07, 2021
Join us in an exploratory conversation
Join us on our journey into Cynefin, a framework for sense-making. For over twenty years, Dave Snowden has been helping leaders break out of a tendency to use the same solutions for different settings. Cynefin is the first, and this time the only, framework that allows leaders to ground their leadership skills in the reality of what is going on around them. Join us in a conversation as Alex and John do their best to explore the Cynefin map and real-world design stories to help apply the complex thinking that Cynefin requires.
Additional resources
- The Cynefin Framework described on Wikipedia
- Our recommended starting point for Cynefin: Making Sense of Complexity - an introduction to Cynefin
- The enabling constraint as defined by Tom McCallum
- Dave Snowden on LinkedIn
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